Well, do you think you should just take music you didn't pay for and just give it away to other people?
I know some people like to justify music piracy as if they are doing a great service to the artist by supposedly "giving them tons of free exposure", but that isnt your call to make nor should you force these guys to believe in it. Im not some RIAA cheerleader, but I also dont feel sorry for the "kids" that get caught doing what they know is illegal and being "sued off the face of the Earth as a result".
Simmons is free to set the price for his work as he see fit. If you dont like the price, dont buy it
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Oh come on, we can argue about what a massive dinosaur RIAA and guys like Gene Simmons are all day long and I'd agree with you. But saying I don't like the price so I'm going to download it for free really is a lot like saying you don't like the price of a Cadillac so you're going to steal it instead of buying the used Geo you can afford. Just go to FYE (or Rasputins. Woot!) and stop excusing theft.
Gene Simmons does have the right to distribute his "music" as he sees fit. We have the right to say "You suck, your music sucks. Piss off", not buy it, then pay Radiohead to support the model we like. That's it.
That's beside the point of the RIAA acting like a police force (should be illegal), the DMCA's ridiculous regulations (should be repealed) and the whole business of the gross amount of access that businesses and PACs have to government (should be a seperation of business and state in the same manner and for the same reasons that there should be a seperation of church and state). This asinine way of doing business does not justify theft. Although it may eventually justify revolution if it doesn't cease.
68newyorker: Actually, it's more like: I don't like the price of the music, so I'll just borrow it from a friend and listen to it. Comparing it to physical theft does not make sense.
Don't equate theft with copyright violation. Anyhow, downloading music isn't even a copyright violation, it's the re-distribution of it that's against the law.
These business execs know this and are greeting these new guards with heavy resistance. Little do they know that they are only prolonging the inevitable. Only those artists that truly in it for the music will have a place in this new digital era. “Music is an art form consisting of sound and silence expressed through time” and what is art "the use of skill and imagination in the creation of aesthetic objects, environments, or experiences that can be shared with others."
Gene is, first and foremost a business guy. KISS is a marketing machine. Do I like KISS music? Yes, I do (not all of it, but the older stuff is still cool). But as well-versed as Gene is at marketing the sh!t out of KISS merchandise, he needs to see that there is more than one medium that music can be sold as.
I will at least give them this - at least you can buy their songs and albums on iTunes and the other digital music stores (unless it was their record company that had a major say so, which I seriously doubt given Gene's control over everything he's created and managed).
His comments to sue the users is just plain him thinking too limited. C'mon Gene... get with the new age.
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More music dinosaurs talking out their asses.
Well, do you think you should just take music you didn't pay for and just give it away to other people?
I know some people like to justify music piracy as if they are doing a great service to the artist by supposedly "giving them tons of free exposure", but that isnt your call to make nor should you force these guys to believe in it. Im not some RIAA cheerleader, but I also dont feel sorry for the "kids" that get caught doing what they know is illegal and being "sued off the face of the Earth as a result".
Simmons is free to set the price for his work as he see fit. If you dont like the price, dont buy it
Jeasus the music sucks why would i want to buy it let alone steal it.
Tell him to reel that thing he calls a tongue in and shut his trap.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
And I think all illegal drug users should be banned from making public statements.... and be required to give away their crap music for free...
@Jeff "Simmons is free to set the price for his work as he see fit. If you dont like the price, dont buy it"
But that's just the point isn't it. People don't like the price, so they're not buying it, they're downloading it.
"Well, do you think you should just take music you didn't pay for and just give it away to other people?"
After reading Gene's take on things, NOW I do!! Let's rob this a-hole back to skid row!
@Dave
Oh come on, we can argue about what a massive dinosaur RIAA and guys like Gene Simmons are all day long and I'd agree with you. But saying I don't like the price so I'm going to download it for free really is a lot like saying you don't like the price of a Cadillac so you're going to steal it instead of buying the used Geo you can afford. Just go to FYE (or Rasputins. Woot!) and stop excusing theft.
Gene Simmons does have the right to distribute his "music" as he sees fit. We have the right to say "You suck, your music sucks. Piss off", not buy it, then pay Radiohead to support the model we like. That's it.
That's beside the point of the RIAA acting like a police force (should be illegal), the DMCA's ridiculous regulations (should be repealed) and the whole business of the gross amount of access that businesses and PACs have to government (should be a seperation of business and state in the same manner and for the same reasons that there should be a seperation of church and state). This asinine way of doing business does not justify theft. Although it may eventually justify revolution if it doesn't cease.
the pay what it's worth system works as a buisness model for radiohead. The reason being that radiohead, unlike kiss, aren't total shite.
ummm Ray, Gene Simmons never used drugs. Not sure what the hell your comment has to do with anything anyway.
that said, he sounds like as big a jerk off as Ted Nugent.
68newyorker:
Actually, it's more like: I don't like the price of the music, so I'll just borrow it from a friend and listen to it. Comparing it to physical theft does not make sense.
@68newyorker:
Don't equate theft with copyright violation. Anyhow, downloading music isn't even a copyright violation, it's the re-distribution of it that's against the law.
I paid $7 to radiohead album; just to encourage and support their idea even though I dont listen to their songs.
who is he?
@ Philometalist
These business execs know this and are greeting these new guards with heavy resistance. Little do they know that they are only prolonging the inevitable. Only those artists that truly in it for the music will have a place in this new digital era.
“Music is an art form consisting of sound and silence expressed through time” and what is art "the use of skill and imagination in the creation of aesthetic objects, environments, or experiences that can be shared with others."
Gene is, first and foremost a business guy. KISS is a marketing machine. Do I like KISS music? Yes, I do (not all of it, but the older stuff is still cool). But as well-versed as Gene is at marketing the sh!t out of KISS merchandise, he needs to see that there is more than one medium that music can be sold as.
I will at least give them this - at least you can buy their songs and albums on iTunes and the other digital music stores (unless it was their record company that had a major say so, which I seriously doubt given Gene's control over everything he's created and managed).
His comments to sue the users is just plain him thinking too limited. C'mon Gene... get with the new age.